Episode 4 – A messy Trump-Russia chat

@jordantpine returns to discuss Mueller, Trump, and Russia. It’s a meandering, messy, tense conversation with rampant disagreement. At least the chat answers the question of “What are *they* thinking?” Each side sees the investigation as obvious, but in opposite ways. If you want to be spared the messiness, the final 5 minutes of the podcast contain a summation of the whole thing.

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